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I have a macro i like to use for bear tanking inclouding this and swipe:

#show Thrash(Bear Form)
/castsequence reset=5 Thrash(Bear Form), Swipe(Bear Form)

for the people that aint used to macros, this will just cast Thrash, then if you press it again, cast swipe. it got the 5 second reset, so every time you engage a new pack you Trash will be the first spell cast again.
Tho i like to still keep swipe on my bars for those situations where your missing the 10 rage more swipe costs.

Комментарий от 807425

Quick question, This ability seems to have 2 parts the dmg then the dot. The tooltip is very clear on the dot (applied to all targets in range) but what about the dmg is that applied to all or just your target?

Комментарий от 807425

To answer my own question, Yes the Dmg and the Dot effect all targets hit.
Also compare the Dot to 3 stacks of Lacerate and bow before Thrash for me its about twice the dmg of 3 stacks of lac.

Комментарий от SoooWhoCares

Some words of warning to these macros:

#showtooltip
/cast Swipe
/cast Thrash

This one doesn't work "just fine". It only casts Swipe. Nothing else.

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=6/target Thrash(Bear Form), Swipe(Bear Form)

This macro won't let you use Swipe until Thrash is ready. Additionally when switching the target and Swipe was usable before you'll make it non-usable untill you could use Thrash and then you mustn't switch the target to do so.

Castsequence macros also never reset when they are spammed because each time the button is pressed the reset time counting begins anew. That will cause the castsequence macro to use spell by spell in the order they are listed and when finished to begin anew while the reset time is never reached as long as someone spams.

My macro atm looks like this and supports cat and bear with all 3 abilites:
#showtooltip
/startattack
/cast Thrash(Bear Form); Swipe(Bear Form)
/cast Swipe(Cat Form)

You'll only be able to use Thrash when pressing a modifier (I use alt). Without a modifier Swipe will be used.
My button for this ability is #3 so it's not so far away from that key. Also you could bind any AE skill you often use to a mouse button with an addon like Bindpad.

Комментарий от SoooWhoCares

There are 2 effects triggered when using this ability:
-a direct hit attacking everything within 8y around the druid
-a bleeding dot that is applied to all targets that were hit

The bleeding dot:
-ticks every 2s, 3 times to a total 6s
-can crit for twice the damage
-bleed damage increasing effects buff the dot
-ignores the armor

Additional info:
-when used and no target exists it'll automatically chose a target
-because the bleeding dot lasts as long as the ability is on cooldown you can also watch the enemie's debuffs to see if the ability is ready

Scaling (including ):
Swipe: 7.8217 AP per point of damage -> 12.7849% AP scaling
Thrash: 9.7961 AP per point of damage -> 10.2081% AP scaling
Thrash (Dot): 19.1734 AP per point of damage over 6s -> 5.2156% AP scaling

Комментарий от 408415

the more bleeds the better IMO :)

Комментарий от kgurnhill

The initial damage appears to increase on targets with the mangle debuff on them :)
Tested this in Mount Hyjal on a level 81 druid, 2 worgen, one with mangle debuff on him and one without.
The worgen without mangle took 1,661 damage and the one with mangle took just over 2,000 damage! :)

Комментарий от WyvernVJ

Buffs and debuffs map (5.4.2)

Buffs

Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Brought by: Any Друид (Знак дикой природы), any Монах (), and any Паладин ().

Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Brought by: Any Жрец (Слово силы: Стойкость), any Чернокнижник (), and any Воин ().

Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power
Brought by: Any Рыцарь смерти (Зимний горн), any Охотник (), and any Воин (Боевой крик).

Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power
Brought by: Any Маг (Чародейский интеллект/), any Шаман (), and any Чернокнижник ().

Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Рыцарь смертиs (), any Разбойник (), and Enhancement Шаманs ().

Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Brought by: Balance Друидs (), Shadow Жрец (), and Elemental Шаманs ().

Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Brought by: Guardian and Feral Друидs (), windwalker Монахs () and any Маг (Чародейский интеллект/).

Mastery
Effect: +3000 mastery
Brought by: Any Паладин (), and any Шаман ().

Debuffs

Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Brought by: Any Друид (), any Разбойник (Таинственное прикосновение), and any Воин ().

Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Brought by: Frost and Unholy Рыцарь смертиs ( and ), Retribution Паладинs (), and Arms and Fury Воинs ().

Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +5% spell damage taken
Brought by: Any Разбойник (), and any Чернокнижник (Печать хаоса).

Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done.
Brought by: Blood Рыцарь смертиs (), Feral and Guardian Друидs (Взбучка and Взбучка), Brewmaster Монахs (Удар бочонком), Protection or Retribution Паладинs (Молот праведника), any Шаман (Земной шок), any Чернокнижник (), and any Воин (Удар грома).

Slow Casting
Effect: -50% casting speed (-25% on players)
Brought by: Any Рыцарь смерти (Некротический удар), Arcane Магs (Замедление), any Разбойник (Замедляющий яд), and any Чернокнижник ().

Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Brought by: Arms or Fury Воинs (Смертельный удар and Неистовый удар сплеча), any Разбойник (Нейтрализующий яд), any Охотник (), and Windwalker Монахs (Удар восходящего солнца).

Note: Buffs and debuffs provided by pets, profession perks, items and any other NPC are left out on purpose.

Комментарий от VelRav

Strange thing is that using Thrash in macros, it's always in disabled state, like if you are out of range.
Macro's are working just as expected, but "grayed out". It is rather confusing.
Even the most simple macro like (#showtooltip/startattack/cast Thrash) is "grayed out" :(

I wonder if anyone knows, what's the problem there?

P.S.: No such problems with Swipe or Mangle...

Комментарий от raensen

From Guardian Guide

Legendaries
Due to the changes to the Guardian Druid scenario, legendaries can greatly increase your chance at success.
Your first legendary should ideally be Luffa Wrappings. This will easily allow you to Thrash the Inquisitor from outside his Aura of Decay with Balance Affinity
An alternative is Ekowraith, Creator of Worlds which will also allow you to Thrash the Inquisitor from outside but at a slightly smaller radius

Lets see

Ranges:

Взбучка: 8 yards
Родство с балансом: 5 yards

For Оплетенные люфой обмотки

(8+5) * 1.25 = 16,25 ~ 17 yards

or

(8*1,25) + 5 = 15 yards

For Экодух, Творец Миров

8 + (5 * 1,75) = 16,75 ~ 17 yards

So as the result looks. With Ekko you have a higher range or the same after rounding. Please point out my failure if i made one, but for me it seem to be that Ekko is the better option for simply range.

I dont understand "Thrash the Inquisitor from outside but at a slightly smaller radius"

Комментарий от sadistic12345

guardian tanking guide in a nutshell

Комментарий от Mozarella2006

For anyone struggling with ElvUI, as a guardian druid trying to track Thrash stacks on target, I had to use this one's ID: Взбучка

Ссылки Экспортировать в WeakAuras

Взбучка

Взбучка
Радиус действия: 8 м

Мгновенное действие	Восстановление: 6 сек

Поражает находящихся поблизости противников, нанося им ([9.2% of Attack Power]) ед. урона от кровотечения и дополнительно ([11.5% of Attack Power]) ед. урона от кровотечения в течение 15 сек. При использовании в облике медведя этот эффект может суммироваться до 3 раз.

Дает 5 ед. ярости.

Свойства заклинания

Длительность

нет

Школа

Физический урон

Механика

Кровоточащий

Тип рассеивания

нет

Категория ГКД

Обычный

Стоимость

Нет

Радиус действия

8 метров (Shorter)

Время прочтения

Мгновенное действие

Восстановление

6 сек.

ГКД

1.5 сек.

Форма

Облик медведя

Эффект #1

School Damage (Физический урон) (Мод.-р АП:0.092)
Механика: Кровоточащий
Радиус действия: 8 метров
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Эффект #2

Give Power (Ярость)
Значение: 5
PvP-мультипликатор: 1

Метки

способность
[Do Not Sheath]
[Initiates Combat (Enabled Auto-Attack)]
[Not In Spellbook]
[Treat as Area Effect]
[Always AOE Line of Sight]
[Periodic Can Crit]
[Aura Points On Client]
[Spellcast Override In Spellbook]
[Allow Class Ability Procs]
[Periodic Refresh Extends Duration]

Руководства

Best Guardian Druid Legendaries Legion Druid Class Changes Necrolord Guardian Druid Guide Overview of Tanking and All Tank Specs [L90 / MoP] Guardian Druid Tanking Guide (Update Pending)

Взбучка

Аура

Свойства заклинания

Руководства

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