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Comment by xger

This is considerably harder than the 10 man version. The shared health pool in 25 man is 4.8 times as large as in 10, but not nearly that many more dps'ers.

Assuming the 2 tanks do 1.8k dps each we have

27,980,000/180=155,445 (rounded up since you can't go over on time and get it)
151845 raid dps from the non-tanks. With
4 healers-->151845/19=7992 dps average per dps'er
5 healers-->151845/18=8436 dps average per dps'er
6 healers-->151845/17=8932 dps average per dps'er
While there are damage buffs, this would have to be the average dps of the non-healers, non-tanks.

EDIT: Why would someone downrate this? It's simply presenting what numbers are needed for the achievement....

Comment by sad787

I think its doable just needs good healers. A way that i think it can be done is based on that the spheres that come during the encounter can actually chain to another nearest player from the same color as the sphere. If people are standing in a very tight group, healing and dpsing at the same time they could get the spheres in the same time and increase their dps alot due to the buff you get everytime you get 100 stacks.

Still testing it in my guild, we tried the closed circle tacit with the bosses in the middle but the mele didnt get the buff much and we were 70 secs short of the timer. Mele usually do 10k-11k dps on this fight when we spread out cause they get the buff at least 3 times.

Comment by darknesscalls

Here's how we did it:

2 Tanks, 4 Healers.

Warrior tank and all melee + hunters are one color (Sunders benefit them)
Paladin tank + all casters are other color (Caster debuffs help Pally threat)
Split the 4 Healers up between the two colors.
Make sure both groups are grouped up tight, this allows orbs coming in to buff the maximum amount of people.

Tank both of them right on top of eachother in between the two portals. This allows for cleave damage and other AoE abilities to hit both of them at the same time. Cleave is really big for this fight, if you use cleave on one of the opposite color Valkyr, the second Valkyr takes the full damage as well, even though it's the same color as you.

DPS should do their best to pick up the same colored orbs, but don't go TOO out of your way to pick them up. It's important to get the buff, but it's also important not to lose too much DPS time

Shields: Don't bother switching targets, let each group handle their own shield, assuming you have top DPSers with you, one side can deal with it on their own with more than enough time on their hands.

Vortex: Switch colors as usual, use bloodlust after the first vortex because almost everyone gets the buff from it, or gets close to it.

Honestly that's it, we got it down with 20 seconds to spare. As long as you have decently geared (ToC+) raiders who can play their classes, you can get this achievement.

Comment by Dudash

When 5.0.4 dropped, a bug came along and decided to eat this achievement so it is no longer in the achievement pane. Because of this, you cannot obtain it. If you had the achievement before 5.0.4, dont worry, you do still have it.

To see if you have it or not, go to blizzards site, log in and go to your character profile (or just enter your character's name here) and hit search, then go to the achievement section > Dungeons & Raids > Lich King Raid > hit alt+f (search) and type in salt.

Comment by Yimbo

Pretty easy to solo in Warlords. Just burn one down, then both fall and you get the achi.

Comment by Slappadabass

1 shotted in Dragonflight and the achievement did not pop. Will have to try a slower kill next week I guess?

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